72. Maff Potts - Camerados and Public Living Rooms - A Christmas Cracker!
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72. Maff Potts - Camerados and Public Living Rooms - A Christmas Cracker!

54:38 Dec 21, 2025
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?? A bit of a Christmas cracker (with maverick music included) A conversation full of humanity.In this Wild Card – Whose Shoes episode, Gill Phillips chats with Maff Potts, founder of the Camarados movement and creator of Public Living Rooms - simple, welcoming spaces where people can put their feet up, enjoy no-agenda company, and look out for each other.No labels. No tick boxes. No “fixing”. Just people. Maff brings stories (and piano!) from his journey: from working in homelessness, to advising government, and very intentionally returning to grassroots connection, where real change happens. Together we explore why kindness, laughter, and belonging aren’t “nice extras” - they’re essential.??? Lemon lightbulbs? “Where would you put the KPI for this?” The case for humanity, music and improvisation over metrics.? Public Living Rooms = connection + purpose (without needing a “service” or a diagnosis).? Permission to be a bit rubbish - and why failure/iteration can be a superpower (England vs Silicon Valley!).? A powerful example of language changing everything: when “Put your feet up” became “It’s time to talk #MentalHealthAwarenessWeek”… footfall dropped from 1000 people to 40.? The “how” matters: how we welcome, speak, listen, and create environments that help people feel human.If you’ve ever felt weary of spreadsheets, assessments, and VIP top tables … this episode is for you. #NoHierarchyJustPeople? Want to start a Public Living Room? Find out more at camarados.org (and you might just receive a beautiful permission-giving box to get you going). #JFDI Happy Christmas everyone! Links:Home - Camerados“It takes a village” We LOVE it when you leave a review!If you enjoy my podcast and find these conversations usefulplease share your thoughts by leaving a review (Spotify or Apple are easiest to leave a review - navigate via 3 dots) and comment on your favourite episodes.Connect with me - Gill Phillips - on LinkedIn, especially if you are interested in our brand new #CYPWhoseShoes resources or our well-established #MatExp (maternity experience) work. I tweet (not so much these days!) as @WhoseShoes and am on Instagram as @WhoseShoesUK and @WildCardWS. Please recommend 'Wild Card - Whose Shoes' to others who enjoy hearing passionate people talk about their experiences of improving health care.
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