#827: Pablos Holman — One of The Scariest Hackers I’ve Ever Met
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#827: Pablos Holman — One of The Scariest Hackers I’ve Ever Met

2:31:41 Sep 16, 2025
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Pablos Holman is a hacker and inventor and the author of Deep Future: Creating Technology that Matters, the indispensable guide to deep tech. Previously, Pablos worked on spaceships at Blue Origin and helped build The Intellectual Ventures Lab to invent a wide variety of breakthroughs. Pablos also hosts the Deep Future Podcast and is managing partner at Deep Future.This episode is brought to you by:Cresset prestigious family office for CEOs, founders, and entrepreneurs: https://cressetcapital.com/timMaui Nui Venison?, delicious, nutrient-dense, and responsible red meat: https://mauinuivenison.com/lp/timAG1 all-in-one nutritional supplement: https://drinkag1.com/timTimestamps:[00:00:00] Start.[00:02:12] The first time I witnessed Pablos’ digital sleight of hand.[00:04:33] How did Pablos become what he considers to be a hacker?[00:08:04] The off-label mindset that makes a good hacker (like Samy Kamkar) great.[00:17:07] The magic of Rodney Mullen.[00:20:28] How Eric Johanson and Pablos gave life to adorable password thief Hackerbot.[00:23:44] Hacker self-defense and the zero-click exploit market.[00:27:11] International pockets of hacker density.[00:30:13] Conventions where modern hackers congregate.[00:30:48] Why, in geopolitics, technology is a game lost by the non-players.[00:33:05] The case to rally behind new nuclear power.[00:36:54] Sequencing priorities so the US can remain technologically competitive.[00:44:49] Evaluating risk and reward in deep tech investment.[00:50:40] Shoring up the shape of shipping.[00:56:59] How Pablos gained his name and famous frames.[00:58:48] Pablos
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