About this episode
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.thebulwark.comSarah Longwell and JVL talk about what happens if Trump doesn’t TACO and pull the plug on the Iran war excursion after things go from messy to bad. Not great!Also: What happens if we know how to reform the system, but the system is so ossified that it can’t be reformed? And are The People, in fact, the worst?Order If I Don’t Return by retired Lt. Gen. Mark HertlingPre-order Sarah’s book, How to Eat an Elephant, coming in September Pre-order Andrew Weissmann’s book, Liar’s Kingdom, coming in MayThe Secret Podcast with JVL and Sarah is exclusively for members of Bulwark+. To watch or listen to future episodes and join the Secret community in the comments become a Bulwark+ member today.