About this episode
Sarah and JVL have the mother of all shows: A full exegesis on the nature of people, the virtues of society, and the requirements for liberal democracy.It’s a whole thing.But then there’s more! JVL is on a quest to get Sarah onto Survivor. How would she play? They start wargaming her Survivor strategy now . . . The Secret Podcast is exclusively for members of Bulwark+ featuring JVL and Sarah Longwell. To watch or listen to this episode and join the conversation in the comments become a Bulwark+ member today. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.thebulwark.com/subscribe
