About this episode
AI is about to automate your entire financial life...Alfonso, co-founder of Crossmint, joins The Rollup to discuss agentic finance, agent-scoped cards, stablecoin infrastructure, and the Western Union stablecoin play.About Alfonso Gómez-Jordana: Co-founder of Crossmint. Former founding PM at Google (reCAPTCHA, Firebase Auth, Actions) and third PM at WhatsApp. Building in crypto since 2012.The Rollup is the convergence of legacy finance and DeFi, bringing you face-to-face with the leaders of neo finance. Live from the Empire State Building every week.Timestamps:00:00 Intro01:12 Alfonso's Background & the reCAPTCHA Origin Story03:34 What Is Agentic Finance, Really?05:11 Breaking Down the Agentic Finance Stack09:56 Stablecoins vs. Credit Cards for AI Agents19:37 Does Blockchain Have Enough Capacity?21:38 Ramp's Agent Card & Visa Intelligent Commerce23:55 Western Union's Stablecoin Strategy27:11 Agentic Finance in Emerging Markets29:34 Where Agentic Commerce Is Happening Today35:28 Where's the Investable Moat?41:37 The Future: Money as a Backend TechnologyWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbiek__Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures??????????: ????????? ?? ?????????????? ??? ???? ????????? ????? ???? ???????? ????? ????????? ????????? ????, ????? ?????, ???????? ??????? ??? ????. ?? ??????? ?????? ?????????? ???? ???????, ?? ??? ???? ? ?????????? ?? ??? ?? ? ???????????, ?? ???? ?? ??? ???? ?? ???? ?????? ???? ???? ?? ?? ?????. ?? ??? ???????? ?? ??????????? ??????? ????????, ??????? ?? ????? ?? ????????? ??????. ?? ??? ??? ????????????? ?? ???????? ????????.