About this episode
Psychologist and author Scott Barry Kaufman joins Reason's Nick Gillespie to discuss his new book Rise Above, which challenges the growing embrace of victimhood as identity. They explore how traits such as neuroticism and vulnerable narcissism are shaping modern culture, why social media rewards grievance over growth, and what it really takes to develop a more flexible, empowered sense of self. Kaufman reflects on his own journey from special education to Carnegie Mellon and beyond, explains why tough love and radical honesty are essential tools for transformation, and offers a humanistic vision of how individuals and societies can move beyond resentment and reclaim purpose.
0:00—Introduction
1:30—Limiting beliefs come from our past.
6:00—The victim mindset
10:49—What is vulnerable narcissism?
12:12—Kaufman's experience in special education
17:35—Childhood trauma from summer camp
21:49—Narcissism is a defensive posture.
26:24—Kaufman's unconventional path to Carnegie Mellon
31:09—Group victimhood and empowerment
37:40—Why coddling and tough love are both wrong
41:55—Embracing optimism in the face of darkness
48:00—Developing a flexible identity
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