Two Dads, One Mom, Zero Apologies | Therapist Ann Russo on Religious Trauma, Chosen Family & Queer Joy

Two Dads, One Mom, Zero Apologies | Therapist Ann Russo on Religious Trauma, Chosen Family & Queer Joy

47:20 Sep 22, 2025
About this episode
Queer therapist and “kid of queer parents” Ann Russo joins Jaimie to show what ordinary, extraordinary queer family looks like. Raised in the ’80s by a mom, dad, and dad’s partner under one roof—publicly “the roommate” for safety—Ann shares how chosen family (yes, Deadhead potlucks) and three parents taught compassion, and why bio vs. non-bio bonds never mattered. We get religious trauma 101: Ann’s fly-on-the-wall years inside a fundamentalist church as an out teen, what religious trauma is (and isn’t), and practical tools clients can use today—nervous-system grounding, boundary-setting, and how to vet an affirming therapist without having to educate them first. We also process headline grief (recorded right after a church shooting), talk about resisting bad-faith narratives, and lean into queer joy as a form of resilience. Ann’s forthcoming clinician guide on treating religious trauma (2026) ties it all together with steps for centering kids, community, and love when the world feels loud.🏳️‍🌈 Key TakeawaysGrowing up with two dads and a mom under one roof—and why it worked“Roommate” life in the ’80s: safety, secrecy, and chosen familyEqual bonds: why bio vs. non-bio didn’t matter in Ann’s housePop-culture panic vs. reality: exposure to queerness doesn’t “make” kids queerReligious trauma 101: definitions, symptoms, and first steps toward repairInside a fundamentalist church (as an out queer person) and what Ann learnedCoping with gun-violence news: nervous-system care, boundaries, communityGenerational love: passing down compassion instead of shameQueer joy as resistance—and as fuel for the long haulHow to vet an affirming therapist (red/green flags, intake clues, language)🏳️‍🌈 About the Guest(s)🏳️‍🌈Ann Russo, LCSW — psychotherapist and founder of AMR Therapy; specializes in religious trauma. Currently writing a book to help clinicians treat religious trauma (expected 2026).🏳️‍🌈 Thanks to our sponsor California Cryobank!Thinking of growing your queer family? Use code QUEERFAM25 at cryobank.com for a FREE Level 2 subscription to their donor catalog!🏳️‍🌈 Book with GWK's Spring Break Cruise Vacation! Join Jaimie and her family (and other LGBTQIA+ families) on a 3 night cruise in the Bahamas. Be sure to mention that you heard about it here! Click that link ➡️ https:/
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