#121: A Raw Chat with Michael Smoak

#121: A Raw Chat with Michael Smoak

1:11:51 Jan 23, 2026
About this episode
Michael Smoak (Higherup Wellness) returns again for the third time on The Pocket. A crowd favourite (including myself). We dove deep while hitting a gym session. Follow Michael: https://www.instagram.com/higherupwellness/ Follow Chris: https://www.instagram.com/morechrisgriffin/ Listen to the last podcast we recorded together: https://open.spotify.com/episode/7lNht10A4EeX5Qr7FvKmpP?si=98b93cb00c5c47bd Chapters: 00:03:10 Getting judged online 00:06:45 Why most men never change 00:14:30 Copycat culture and fake masculinity 00:18:15 One year since my dad died 00:22:50 A poem about being human 00:24:20 How grief actually works 00:30:45 Pain is how men are forged 00:32:50 Becoming proud of who you are 00:37:40 Asking Tony Robbins 00:41:45 Becoming undeniable 00:50:15 Trusting yourself without prep 00:54:30 Killing the old identity Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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