Johnnyswim on curiosity, work vs growth, and wonder.
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Johnnyswim on curiosity, work vs growth, and wonder.

54:55 Jul 16, 2025
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Johnnyswim, the duo Amanda Sudano and Abner Ramirez, have been releasing records since 2008, have played The Tonight Show (Leno edition), and the Late Late Show, NPR's Tiny Desk and All Things Considered, their song is the theme to Fixer Upper on HGTV, they've had two TV series chronicling their life (Home on the Road, and The Johnnyswim Show, both on Magnolia Network), they've written and published a book titled "Home Sweet Road: Finding Love, Making Music, and Building a Life One City at a Time", and are currently working on a new creative outlet that we discuss here. We talk with Amanda and Abner about staying curious in our pursuits, creating space for wonder and childlike-ness, how to rejuvenate yourself and your creativity on the run, the blinders of fixation, and a whole lot more.Get more access and support this show by subscribing to our Patreon, right here.Links:Johnnyswim“Home Sweet Road”Home on the RoadThe Johnnyswim ShowThe StaircaseBritten NewbillEp 73 - Edwin McCainRickey MinorDonna SummerClick here to watch this conversation on YouTube.Social Media:The Other 22 Hours InstagramThe Other 22 Hours TikTokMichaela Anne InstagramAaron Shafer-Haiss InstagramAll music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Sha
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