#1187 Peter Turchin: The Collapse of Complex Societies, Elite Overproduction, and Social Unrest
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#1187 Peter Turchin: The Collapse of Complex Societies, Elite Overproduction, and Social Unrest

50:50 Dec 11, 2025
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