About this episode
In this episode of Taboo To Truth, I sit down with surrogate partner and intimacy coach Brian Gibney to talk about what happens when touch, sex, and therapy meet. We walk through the origins of surrogate partner therapy, how it supports traditional talk therapy, and why it sits inside the world of sex work while still holding clear ethical boundaries. Brianan explains who seeks out this work, what sessions look like in real life, how attachment and feelings show up, and why sex itself often turns out to be a symptom rather than the real issue. We also talk about non-monogamy, money, how to vet an ethical surrogate partner, and Brian’s very expansive definition of sex.Timestamps:In This Episode:00:00 - What if sex was part of your therapy01:08 - What surrogate partner therapy is and why talk therapy hits a limit03:42 - Masters and Johnson and the birth of surrogate partners06:05 - Sex work, the “whorarchy”, and where surrogates sit in it09:18 - How surrogate partner therapy differs from full service intimacy work11:52 - The therapeutic triad: client, therapist, surrogate13:40 - Who seeks this work: trauma, pain, cancer, disability, shame17:05 - First sessions, nerves, and why the work starts with “hello”19:40 - When clients expect something more and run the “checklist” for access22:15 - Entitlement, hard conversations, and repeating old patterns24:05 - Attachment, feelings, and why the “box” stays small26:10 - Brian’s non monogamy and protecting his own relationships28:30 - Boundaries to this work30:35 - How to vet a legitimate surrogate partner and red flags32:10 - Brian’s expansive definition of sex and why PIV is not the gold standard34:00 - Final thoughtsWant a deeper look? Watch the full episode on YouTube for a more visual experience of today’s discussion. This episode is best enjoyed on video—don’t miss out!Karen Bigman, a Sexual Health Alliance Certified Sex Educator, Life, and Menopause Coach, tackles the often-taboo subject of sexuality with a straightforward and candid approach. We explore the intricacies of sex during perimenopause, post-menopause, and andropause, offering insights and support for all those experiencing these transformative phases.This podcast is not intended to give medical advice. Karen Bigman is not a medical professional. For any medical questions or issues, please visit your licensed medical provider.Looking for some fresh perspective on sex in midlife? You can find me here:Email: karen@taboototruth.comWebsite:
