About this episode
In this groundbreaking interview, retired U.S. Air Force test pilot Dan Isbell breaks 45 years of silence on his close-range UAP encounters, including a pivotal 1980 sighting at Upper Heyford that aligns with the Rendlesham Forest incident—often called England's Roswell. With a career spanning over 70 aircraft types, from F-111s carrying nuclear payloads to U-2s at the edge of space, Isbell offers a credible, engineering-grounded perspective on anomalous craft that defy known physics.Major themes explored include: Isbell's first UAP sighting—a silent, triangular craft with plasma-like lights hovering instantaneously, observed near nuclear storage sites. Subsequent encounters involving directed beams, expanding plasma orbs, and tracking phenomena, raising questions about non-human intelligence. Deeper implications for fringe science, including plasma cosmology, zero-point energy, and challenges to mainstream physics like Big Bang theory and gravity-centric models. Connections to remote viewing, reverse engineering, black projects, and consciousness, blending high-level aviation stories with revelatory insights.00:00 Intro 03:26 Aviation Career Beginnings 10:34 F-111 Missions & Terrain Following Radar 19:15 F-16 Blocks & Functional Check Flights 30:26 U-2 Challenges & High-Altitude Flights 41:27 Directed Energy Weapons & Pentagon Roles 57:54 Upper Heyford & Alert Duties 64:58 The 1980 Upper Heyford UAP Sighting 76:21 Rendlesham Forest Connection 87:25 Subsequent UAP Encounters 97:39 Plasma Cosmology & Fringe Science 112:49 Tracking, Disclosure & Final Thoughts Watch Professor Simon's Dan Isbell take here: • Dan Isbell - Kept UFO Secret - 45 Years Chris Lehto is a former F-16 pilot with 18 years of experience in the Air Force. He managed multi-million dollar simulator contracts, was an Electronic Attack SME for the Aggressors (OPFOR), and commanded the US Detachment at TLP for NATO Fighter Pilot Training. Chris fought in Iraq for 5 months in 2006. He spent 3 years in Turkey as an exchange pilot and is fluent in Turkish. Chris is also a certified crash safety investigator, having investi
