About this episode
FULL EPISODE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFMDM5tEfJw&t=1s
Former CIA intelligence officer Andrew Bustamante explains why he wouldn’t want to be living in the United States when a specific set of events unfold by 2030.
This clip breaks down how intelligence agencies actually think about collapse, instability, institutional decay, and social fragmentation — and why insiders often see warning signs long before the public does.
Bustamante explains:
Why intelligence analysts track trend convergence, not single events
How governments quietly plan for domestic instability
What signals insiders watch to know when a country is past recovery
Why “slow collapse” is more dangerous than sudden chaos
What 2030 represents in long-term intelligence forecasting
No hype.
No fear-porn.
Just how intelligence professionals really assess the future — and why some choose to leave before the line is crossed.
***TIMESTAMPS***
00:00 – Andy reacts to his argument with John Kiriakou on Danny Jones Ep. 254
04:23 – Why Andy is leaving the United States
11:02 – Mossad spies disappearing
18:22 – Evan Gershkovich kidnapped in Russia
20:48 – Using “cleansing routes” to run ops & inside “The Farm” CIA training
31:15 – Post-failure routes at the CIA
40:12 – Andy reflects on his lowest moment at the CIA
41:48 – Jihi as a true CIA believer & how 9/11 created “targeters”
51:52 – Andy’s first missions around the world & asset-gathering protocol
56:53 – Andy & Jihi assigned to spy on America’s #1 enemy to find the “mole”
Watch the full conversation on the Julian Dorey Podcast
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