Sunday Chat: "Ben Shapiro Is Talking Nonsense About the Left Undermining Families"

I'm going to be talking about my new Jacobin article examining Ben Shapiro's odd views about how visitors from Mars would oppose gay marriage--and arguing that the best way to help people start families isn't by dissolving gay people's marriages but by providing universal economic security--and taking some calls. You can read the article itself here: https://jacobin.com/2022/11/ben-shapiro-gay-marriage-equality-family-support Download the Callin app for iOS and Android to listen to this podcast live, call in, and more! Also available at callin.com