About this episode
That “big win” moment is supposed to feel chill, right? Instead, the vibe here is more like: congrats, now the pressure triples. Between Jay Schwedelson admitting he’s somehow more anxious after selling subjectline.com and Daniel Murray dropping a ridiculously simple conversion lever most marketers ignore, this one lands as equal parts real talk and immediately usable.?Follow Daniel on LinkedIn and check out The Marketing Millennials podcast for sharp, no-fluff marketing insights. Subscribe to Ari Murray’s newsletter at gotomillions.co for sharp, actionable marketing insights.?Best Moments:(01:16) Selling a business sounds relaxing until Jay admits it cranked his anxiety up 10x(03:13) The uncomfortable reason Jay sometimes turns down small-budget clients, even when they believe in you(04:48) The easiest conversion lift you can test is not the offer, it’s the name of the offer(06:37) The “one modifier word” title test that can change conversions fast(08:12) Why tiny A/B tweaks teach you more than totally different versions(09:15) Jay starts meditating every morning, and Daniel calls him out for the sun-staring habit?Check out Jay’s YOUTUBE Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay’s TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelsonCheck Out Jay's INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/?Pre-order Jay Schwedelson’s new book, Stupider People Have Done It (out April 21, 2026). All net proceeds are donated to The V Foundation for Cancer Research—let’s kick cancer’s butt: https://www.amazon.com/Stupider-People-Have-Done-Marketing/dp/1637635206
