About this episode
As software becomes easier to create than ever, what does it look like to truly differentiate with design?Today's episode with Julien Martin (https://x.com/julienmartin_?lang=en) is an attempt to answer that question.He was the Head of Design at Zenly, Snapchat, and Amo which is some of the most uniquely impressive consumer design I've ever seen.Some highlights:- Behind the scenes of early Amo explorations- How the composition of design orgs is changing- The unlock that led to Amo's unique visual language- Julien’s advice for how to succeed in today’s job market- The untold story of how Julien joined in the early days of Behance- Why side projects are now the strongest signal when hiring designers*- Andy Allen (https://www.dive.club/deep-dives/andy-allen) (referenced multiple times for his “not boring” article and Camera app)- Off Market (https://offmarketjobs.substack.com/) (Julien’s talent agency for designers)- Retro app (https://retro.app/) and Duolingo (https://www.duolingo.com/) (mentioned as inspiration)
