Retrofit or reimagine? Developer environments for humans and agents | Ona’s Matt Boyle
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Retrofit or reimagine? Developer environments for humans and agents | Ona’s Matt Boyle

37:03 Mar 31, 2026
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AI agents have officially arrived on an internet that simply wasn't built for them. So how do we build the infrastructure to keep them safe, productive, and contained? This week, Andrew sits down with Matt Boyle, Head of Product, Design and Engineering at Ona (formerly Gitpod), to discuss evolving cloud development environments into secure, enterprise-grade "agent jails." They explore the mechanics of Project Veto’s kernel-level security, the slow death of the traditional IDE, and how the rise of AI is transforming developers into full-stack, T-shaped product owners. Finally, Matt shares his vision for the future of the SDLC, detailing how organizations can safely balance strict compliance with the bleeding edge of autonomous software factories.Download the APEX FrameworkFollow the show:Subscribe to our Substack Follow us on LinkedInSubscribe to our YouTube ChannelLeave us a ReviewFollow the hosts:Follow AndrewFollow BenFollow DanFollow today's guest:Learn more about Ona (formerly Gitpod) and read their latest blog announcements, including Veto.Connect with Matt on LinkedIn | X (Twitter)OFFERSStart Free Trial: Get started with LinearB's AI productivity platform for free.Book a Demo: Learn how you can ship faster, improve DevEx, and lead with confidence in the AI era.LEARN ABOUT LINEARBAI Code Reviews: Automate reviews to catch bugs, security risks, and performance issues before they hit production.AI & Productivity Insights: Go beyond DORA with AI-powered recommendations and dashboards to measure and improve performance.
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