Change is Like a Slinky - Book Interview with Dr. Hans Shultz
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Change is Like a Slinky - Book Interview with Dr. Hans Shultz

52:09 Sep 19, 2025
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How to Lead Change (Without Losing Your Team) — with Dr. Hans FinzelDr. Hans Finzel returns to Change Agent Leadership to unpack the big idea behind his book Change Is Like a Slinky—why change is messy, unpredictable, and essential if you want your organization to survive and thrive. We talk practical leadership moves: building a guiding coalition, over-communicating the “why,” converting adversaries into advocates, and aligning your board, leaders, and teams so momentum sticks. Guest: Dr. Hans Finzel — author, speaker, former president of WorldVenture, and president of HD Leaders. Author of 11 books including the international bestseller The Top 10 Mistakes Leaders Make and Change Is Like a Slinky. What you’ll learn·       Why leaders must accept the need for change even when the old way “still works”·       How to anticipate allies and adversaries (and why the middle 70% are your leverage)·       Why communication ×10 is the lifeblood of any change effort·       How to align your board, leadership team, and staff so the “wheels” roll straight·       The role of trust, vulnerability, and encouragement in sustaining momentum·       How to turn critics into advocates through presence, listening, and clarity ??    Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Gq0o8o5h2lU ??   Schedule a free discovery call: https://jonathanhankin.com/contact ??   Chapters:00:00 Introduction to Change Agent Leadership01:16 Hans Finzel's Leadership Journey02:26 The Necessity of Change in Leadership04:23 Communicating Change Effectively07:06 Change is Like a Slinky12:37 Phases of Change18:09 Accepting the Need for Change23:09 Anticipating Adversaries and Allies24:26 Understanding Leadership Miscommunication25:44 Rebuilding Trust Through Humble Communication27:38 The Importance of Over-Communicating28:03 Focusing on the Right Group for Change35:06 Aligning Your Team for Success39:13 The Role of Encouragement and Trust44:11 Challenges in Organizational Change50:16 Advice for Emerging Leaders Resources mentioned·       Hans Finzel — https://hansfinzel.com·       Change Is Like a Slinky by Hans Finzel ·       The Top 10 Mistakes Leaders Make by Hans Finzel ·       Buy-In by John P. Kotter & Lorne A. Whitehead ·       The Five Dysfunctions of a Team by Patrick Lencioni Catch full episodes of video versions and other leadership videos on my YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Jonathan-Hankin Download Free Leadership Toolkits ?
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