About this episode
Mathematics quietly shapes some of the most important decisions in public life, from redistricting and congressional apportionment to federal research funding and AI policy. In this episode, Autumn and Noah speak with Dr. Karen Saxe, Director of Government Relations at the American Mathematical Society, about how mathematical ideas influence representation, fairness, education, and the future of research. From gerrymandering and geometric compactness to life inside the U.S. Senate and the growing policy debates around AI, Karen reveals how deeply math is woven into the systems that govern everyday life.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Conversation01:15 The Hot Tea in DC01:24 Gerrymandering and Mathematics03:42 Understanding Gerrymandering and Redistricting08:07 The Role of Mathematicians in Politics12:19 Experiences in the Senate with Al Franken19:32 Government Relations and the Role of Mathematics23:01 The Impact of AI on Mathematics and Policy28:41 Community Readiness for AI Transformations29:22 Diversity in Education and Its Challenges29:40 Bridging Mathematics and Politics29:58 Career Pathways: Academia to PolicyFollow Karen Saxe on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/karen-saxe-5015038a/) Website (https://www.ams.org/government) Follow Breaking Math on Substack (https://breakingmath.substack.com/) Twitter (https://x.com/breakingmathpod) Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/breakingmathmedia/) Bluesky (https://bsky.app/profile/breakingmath.bsky.social) Website (https://www.breakingmath.io/) YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@BreakingMathPod) Follow Noah on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/profnoahgian/) Twitter (https://x.com/ProfNoahGian) Bluesky (
