The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly Truth

The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly Truth

52:59 Dec 20, 2025
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School's Out Saturdays on the AGI Podcast - Because our job is to prepare students for their future not our past. (Episode 57)Episode Summary:What does it look like when someone who actually trained AI chatbots in 2010 becomes a K-5 educator? Courtney Bock bridges her NextIT background (Ask Jenn, Sgt. Star) with classroom reality, leading district-wide AI implementation in Mead, Washington. She tackles the messy middle: teaching Dewey Decimal with Magic School, why "go slow to go fast" doesn't mean standing still, and how prompt engineering might be the communication skill we should have been teaching all along.GuestCourtney Bock is AI Implementation Specialist & Library/Technology Teacher | Former Natural Language Model Analyst at NextIT (2010-2012) | Worked on Alaska Airlines' Ask Jenn and U.S. Army's Sgt. Star | 15 years in education. Located in Mead, Washington. Courtney leads professional development for educators and speaks at conferences about ethical AI implementation in K-12.Guest LinksCourtney on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/courtneybock/Courtney's Substack: https://courtneybock.substack.com/?r=5s99nw&utm_campaign=pub-share-checklistMead School District AI Hub: www.mead354.org/aiParent Tech Resource Center: https://www.mead354.org/services-supports/parent-tech-resourcesFollow UsInstagram: @AGISchoolsoutFacebook + LinkedIn: @AGIPodcastDon't get left behind! Future-proof your organization, your team, and your career → work with Jason → podcasts, keynotes, educational workshops, and one-on-one coachingLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonkoehrer/X: https://x.com/agipodcast📧 jasonk@phoenixsolutions.groupThe No-Code CAIO Newsletterhttps://agipodcast.beehiiv.com/Phoenix Solutions GroupAffordable, pragmatic education, training, and consulting in AI literacy, policy, and projects.🌐 www.phoenixsolutions.groupKey Timestamps:03:45 - Next IT background: training chatbots by hand before machine learning existed08:30 - Why Alaska Airlines' Ask Jenn matters for education12:15 - From AI optimist to AI realist: what changed15:20 - Go slow to go fast: Mead's implementation strategy18:40 - Teaching AI literacy without enterprise platforms22:10 -
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